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February 24th, 2004
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Saying No
So, my appeal was rejected by the IDF, and so I shall be going to reserve duty on March 9th. I shall show up at the training base (within Israeli borders) and announce that I refuse to serve in the occupied territories (where I am summoned to do guard duty). I shall no doubt be tried for this, and a likely outcome would be imprisonment for 14-28 days.

I'm meeting a guy from Seruv on Thursday after my exam, to hear a bit about their experiences and some of the IDF's underhanded tactics of manipulation against refuseniks.

I'll make sure the results of my trial are posted here, when the time comes.

Too bad about the semester.

Current Mood: determined
Current Music: Leonard Cohen -- Lady Midnight

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From:windesbraut
Date:February 24th, 2004 04:03 pm (UTC)
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Good luck with everything...I'll be thinking about you. I hope it turns out ok for you.
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From:ijon
Date:February 24th, 2004 05:32 pm (UTC)
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Thank you.
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From:ravell
Date:February 24th, 2004 04:18 pm (UTC)

אמרתי לך זאת פנים אל פנים

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ואומר זאת גם כאן: אני גאה שנפלה בחיקי הזכות להכיר אותך.
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From:ijon
Date:February 24th, 2004 05:26 pm (UTC)

Re: אמרתי לך זאת פנים אל פנים

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די, באמת. אני שמח מאוד על התמיכה שכולכם מגלים כלפי, אבל אין צורך להגזים. אני עושה את הדבר ההגון למיטב הבנתי, ואני מניח שגם אתה היית עושה את הדבר ההגון למיטב הבנתך.
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From:wildernesscat
Date:February 24th, 2004 04:29 pm (UTC)

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I'll make sure to duplicate this whenever possible, Russian forums as well, if you wish. Do what you have to do!
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From:ijon
Date:February 24th, 2004 06:12 pm (UTC)
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Um, duplicate what? News of my trial? Thanks, but I think the group of people who care about me and don't read my journal but do read Russian forums is empty.
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From:lilacsinmarch
Date:February 24th, 2004 04:48 pm (UTC)
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I hope that this doesn't end with imprisonment,surely the idiots would be able to find something better for you to do than to guard a bunch of settlers.
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From:ygurvitz
Date:February 24th, 2004 07:04 pm (UTC)

It's a matter of principle

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They wouldn't allow people to choose their own assignments. They claim - justly - that soldiers simply can't have that option. They will not concede that some orders go so much against people's consciences that they would prefer punishment to obedience.

They have a dirty trick: they summon you, you refuse to go, they throw you in for 14-28 days. The day you get out, you receive another summons, to the same mission. Refuse? In you go again. Obey? They've broken you. Cheap, but it works. Few people can stand it for more than a few months (though some were imprisoned for over a year) - reservists are working people, as a rule, and few employers are sympathetic. If you're running your own business, your position is even worse.

Dirty, but it works. They have a saying (pardon their vulgarity): "If you piss on the Army, the Army gets wet. If the Army pisses on you, you drown."

I hate the military.
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From:cinamon
Date:February 24th, 2004 05:25 pm (UTC)
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You will have to take your sillyfone,
and let us know what happens after the trial;
if they imprison you,
we [I assume there are others like me]
would like to come visit and show our support.
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From:cinamon
Date:February 24th, 2004 05:29 pm (UTC)
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Oh, and much success with your exam Thursday. :)
*hugs*
From:gamahucheur
Date:February 24th, 2004 07:10 pm (UTC)
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You are a hero. Never lose sight of that.
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From:brad
Date:February 24th, 2004 08:05 pm (UTC)
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:-(

Good luck....

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From:mummimamma
Date:February 24th, 2004 09:18 pm (UTC)
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Good luck! I hope it works out well. I wish everybody was like you.
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From:passacaglio
Date:February 24th, 2004 10:49 pm (UTC)

Good Luck

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Illuminate all of our paths.
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From:emblemparade
Date:February 25th, 2004 03:05 am (UTC)
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Eh, you're not going to get "you're a hero" mentions from me, only sympathy for the incredibly icky position you're in. Myself, I have often contemplated what I would do... I think the army lets me be because it knows I have dual citizenship. It's a battle they would instantly lose, although it would cause me all sorts of pain. I'm Israeli, and I like having Israeli citizenship for all sorts of reasons. Fuck the military, fuck petty Zionism, and fuck the Palestinian jingosim that bolsters it. I refuse to dance for any of these.

Anyway, if you need to leave the country, blow the popsicle stand, hit the proverbial road, so to speak -- you have asylum with me in Chicago (by night).
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From:fishberg
Date:February 25th, 2004 05:42 am (UTC)

Good Luck

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I'll keep you posted about "Heart of Darkness" :-).
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From:suicide_angel
Date:February 25th, 2004 05:59 am (UTC)
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you are a strong strong person. don't ever let anyone break you of that. best wishes and my deepest commendments because that's truly heroic.
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From:steelight
Date:February 25th, 2004 08:43 am (UTC)

Again, I wish you luck

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More than wisdom or wits, strength or endurance (all of which you have with or without my wishes), I wish you to have just plain, blind, dumb luck.
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From:orbar
Date:February 25th, 2004 11:07 am (UTC)

בהצלחה

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From:yoavb
Date:February 25th, 2004 11:26 am (UTC)

visit

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make sure to tell me when you know how and when will I be able to visit yoy there.
I still hope you'll not have to go to prison thogh.

Joy.
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