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April 2nd, 2004
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Interesting Interests
An interesting meme, through ukelele:

Pick an interest from my interest list that you either:

A) Don't know anything about
Or
B) Know something about but can't understand why I would dig.

And I might explain.

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From:windesbraut
Date:April 2nd, 2004 03:11 am (UTC)
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deipnosophists

Who are they? I'm curious.
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From:ijon
Date:April 2nd, 2004 03:12 pm (UTC)
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Deipnosophists are, literally, people who indulge in the exchange of wisdom around the dinner table. Athenaeus wrote a book called The Deipnosophists, but I was not alluding to it specifically.

I enjoy deipnosophism. We should totally indulge in some, one day.
From:windesbraut
Date:April 2nd, 2004 05:56 pm (UTC)
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I think that I would love to deipnosophize. Thanks for clearing that up! :)
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From:morin
Date:April 2nd, 2004 08:09 am (UTC)
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Not one item on your list seems uninteresting, or, one might even say, cool.
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From:itzafurrball
Date:April 2nd, 2004 09:37 am (UTC)
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bob dylan? haha just kidding
how about:
"umberto eco"?
it *is* nice of you to find fun ways expand our educations everyday :)
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From:ijon
Date:April 2nd, 2004 03:14 pm (UTC)
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Eco is, in my opinion, one of the greatest scholars alive. He is a professor of Semiotics at Milan, and also a brilliant novelist and columnist. His works, both his academic and his literary ones, fill me with inspiration. His most famous book is The Name of the Rose.
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From:antinous
Date:April 2nd, 2004 10:19 am (UTC)

Neet Meme!

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Here are the items I know nothing about (or simply forgot I know about at the moment - some ring a bell): anthony burgess, deipnosophists, dexter gordon, john cale, joni mitchell, keith jarrett, lantra, neil gaiman, neil young, nick drake, pedro salinas, stephen crane, stephen fry ,william meredith, william styron.

Pick one and explain it, if you will. "It is never shameful not to know, it is only shameful not to ask", right?

By the way - my interest list is a subset of yours :-)
From:pelig
Date:April 2nd, 2004 12:30 pm (UTC)

Re: Neet Meme!

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John Cale: Co-founder of the velvet underground. A classically trained violist and composer with a long, fascinating and diverse career in fringe rock. Also, known to some as the guy that is way better than Lou Reed. Neil Gaiman- Comics author and novelists. Wrote some nice novels and a stunning, masterful comics saga called the sandman. These days he pretty much gave in to the mediocrity and became a pop-writer the the bad sense of it, I think.
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From:ijon
Date:April 2nd, 2004 03:34 pm (UTC)

Re: Neet Meme!

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pelig gave adequate definitions of Cale and Gaiman, so I'll skip those.

Burgess is a brilliant writer of prose; his most famous book is A Clockwork Orange, which is a delightful quick read and contains absolutely brilliant language. The dearly-missed alyna prodded me until I've read his The Wanting Seed, which is an excellent dystopia book. I suspect that Burgess has made it to my "read everything this guy wrote" list.

Regarding deipnosophists, see above.

Dexter Gordon is a fantastic jazz master, who plays the Saxophone. Borrow my copy of his "Ballads" CD some day, and see if you like his stuff. I was introduced to him by A., whom I'd rather forget.

Joni Mitchell is a brilliant folk, jazz, and blues singer. Try her albums "Blue", "Court and Spark", or "Ladies of the Canyon" some time. Her singing never fails to move me.

Jarrett is a brilliant (um, yes, I know I'm repeating that adjective, but hey, 'brilliance' is one of my interests, isn't it?) jazz pianist. I really like his solo improvised concerts (try the Köln concert some day).

LanTra is the name of a venerable translators' mailing list, of which I had been a member, years and years ago. It has a unique atmosphere, and features a gallery of remarkable and interesting people. I enjoyed reading it, but very soon could no longer afford the time to keep up with its high volume.

Neil Young is a Canadian folk singer and rocker. I like his voice, and his simple style. Try his album "Harvest" some day for a taste of his folk side, or the live performances "Live Rust" or "Weld" for the guitar rock side.

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From:ijon
Date:April 2nd, 2004 03:56 pm (UTC)

Re: Neet Meme!

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Nick Drake was a breathtaking young musician with a beautiful voice. He died very young, in a tragic accident. His singing soothes my soul.

Pedro Salinas is a poet. He made me "read anything by this guy" list with those lines I never tire of repeating. I haven't read anything else of his yet.

Stephen Crane is an interesting American poet. His poems from Black Riders and other lines have been with me since the age of sixteen, and I like both his themes and his style. Perhaps I should spiel you folks about him some day.

Stephen Fry gains more and more of my appreciation, admiration even, as time goes by. He is a brilliant British comedian, actor, author, and, recently, film director. I adore his eloquence, his wit, and his aesthetics. He also played Oscar Wilde in the film Wilde, and did it exceptionally well in my opinion, which as you might guess is highly demanding in this particular instance.

William Meredith is a poet who made said "read anything" list with his poem "The Illiterate", one of the finest in my personal collection of poetry. I've read only one other poem of his so far, and loved that one as well.

William Styron is an American author, whose book The Long March stunned me when I'd read it, back in 1997, in an army base. I've since seen the film version of his most famous novel, Sophie's Choice (brilliant acting by Streep and by Klein!), and liked that too. I've also read and appreciated his memoir about depression, A Darkness Visible.
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From:antinous
Date:April 2nd, 2004 07:13 pm (UTC)

Re: Neat Meem!

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Thanks! I'll visit you soon with a somewhat large bag :-)
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From:orbar
Date:April 2nd, 2004 11:20 am (UTC)
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serendipity - I once checked what it means but never understood it properly

by the way why put s.izhar twice?
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From:ijon
Date:April 2nd, 2004 04:29 pm (UTC)
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Serendipity, n., the faculty of making fortunate discoveries by chance. Coined by the writer Walpole, after a Persian tale called "The Three Princes of Serendip", who were endowed with said faculty. Also my favorite natural phenomenon.

As for Yizhar, the poetic answer is that I really like him that much. The prose answer is that he is better known by his nom de plume, but I also wanted to include his full name.
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From:orbar
Date:April 2nd, 2004 10:31 pm (UTC)
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thanx

and as for s. izhar, as he his my neighbor I remember that when I was a kid his nom de plume always confused me - I used to think his name was actually sam echizhar - not until I grew up I found out about this stupid mistake - one of the many childhood myths that was broken by growing up.
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From:ijon
Date:July 27th, 2004 12:47 am (UTC)
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Say, do you have any idea how Yizhar is doing, physically? Is he healthy?
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From:orbar
Date:July 28th, 2004 07:46 am (UTC)
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no, but I'll check and get back to you.
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From:orbar
Date:July 28th, 2004 01:21 pm (UTC)
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I've asked my father and he said he just met him a week ago and he's doing fine, and doesn't have any physical problems.
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From:ukelele
Date:April 2nd, 2004 12:58 pm (UTC)
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Hrm. Most of the ones I don't know look like people I could google for and, having googled, I could probably guess...

So, why Finnish? (Especially when there are so many languages to choose from...)
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From:ijon
Date:April 2nd, 2004 05:08 pm (UTC)
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Years ago, I serendipitously got e-acquainted with a lovely Finn. Reading up on Finland and Finnish, I got curious. I found some online Finnish lessons, and realized I really like the language! Its being apart from the Indo-European languages I'm getting to know, for one thing, and its sound, really agreed with me. Sadly, I never had the time to make any real progress. But I shall, someday! And then I shall be able to chat with my favorite Finn in Finnish... :)
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From:omerm
Date:April 2nd, 2004 05:17 pm (UTC)

"intertextuality"

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What is "intertextuality"?
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From:ijon
Date:July 27th, 2004 12:50 am (UTC)

Re: "intertextuality"

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Intertextuality is a term coined by a scholar named Julia Kristeva, describing the relationships between semiotic units as part of a larger theory of hers. The term has since become less restricted, and in that more popular, less specific sense (which is the one I am interested in), refers to any relationship between texts (such as quoting, allusion, parody, etc.).

sorry it took so long...
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From:declaude
Date:April 2nd, 2004 05:20 pm (UTC)
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Ok here we go: intertextuality
and

"Kishon", which I assume is Hebrew. I love all things Hebrew and would like to know what this is. It sounds like a toponym, but maybe I am thinking of Kidron.
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From:ijon
Date:July 27th, 2004 12:57 am (UTC)
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I've described intertextuality briefly above.

Kishon is Ephraim Kishon, a world-famous Israeli humorist and satirist, born in Hungary. Kishon shaped my childhood reading, and both his humor and his language have had lasting influences on me.

You weren't far off guessing it's a toponym: the Kishon is in fact the name of a river in Israel, and the form is indeed generally typical of toponyms. Ephraim Kishon is the Hebrew name given by the authorities to the confused new immigrant Ferenc Kishont.

Sorry I took my time on this one...
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From:declaude
Date:July 27th, 2004 06:45 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for the explanation! I wrote this comment originally a while back, how did you come across it again?

thanks again
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From:oddcellist
Date:April 2nd, 2004 07:25 pm (UTC)
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Mine will be Jose Saramago, although there are plenty of others.

(I'm afraid that were I to offer you an explanation of any... I have a feeling you know all of them, already.)
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From:ijon
Date:July 27th, 2004 01:01 am (UTC)
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Saramago is a Portuguese author with a breathtaking prose style. His "Gospel According to Jesus Christ" really gripped me. He's got a unique voice, and is well worth getting to know, IMHO.

Sorry about the latency...
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From:wildernesscat
Date:April 2nd, 2004 07:49 pm (UTC)

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Relating to A, "thinking".
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