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The Wonders of Homework - Impressions and Expressions of Ijon
October 19th, 2002
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The Wonders of Homework
I have just translated ten simple sentences from Hebrew into Classical Attic Greek. O blissful ecstasy!

Current Mood: ecstatic
Current Music: birds chirping

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From:wildernesscat
Date:October 19th, 2002 02:35 am (UTC)

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Way to go! Now here's something you can proudly put in your CV one day... ;-)
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From:goliard
Date:October 19th, 2002 03:54 am (UTC)

Ah, nostalgia...

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( < nostos home + algos pain)
It's been years since I dabbled in Greek, but I loved it when I did. Have fun!

Tom
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From:ijon
Date:October 23rd, 2002 08:56 am (UTC)

Lepus Cunicuwus te

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You! You wascal wabbit! Put your journal to some use, I say! Tell us some antics and anecdotes of the current Wondrous Wabbit World-Wander!

And as for Greek, with any luck, we should be able to exchange some pleasantries or (more likely actually!) some famous quotations in Greek. How did you study it at the time? Did you use Meridor's book?
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From:goliard
Date:October 25th, 2002 07:24 am (UTC)

Re: Lepus Cunicuwus te

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I know, I know, my journal is pitifully underfed... It's just that Internet cafes aren't very inspiring landscapes, and I have no net connection at home (which is infinitely for the better).

Antics and anecdotes? Well, the truth is my life isn't too eventful these days. I'm still in Barcelona, having decided at the end of my Australian trip that the time for wandering was over (for now...), studying the saxophone and music in general. I find (not surprisingly) that the better I understand music the more I love it. It's thrilling to be able to see ever deeper into the guts of the beast, to gradually comprehend how seemingly abstract beauty is concretely put together. But even beyond from the satisfaction of hearing a chord sequence and finding yourself thinking, "Aha! A plagal cadence", on a deeper level I think I'm growing more sensitive to the multifarious joys music conceals. It's an exciting, though solitary, journey of discovery.

Apart from that, life wobbles in a mild but regular sine curve of mood. There's always a small voice somewhere tempting me to chuck it all and go live in a hut on some tropical beach in Queensland.

Greek: yes, we used the Meridor book. I'm afraid I remember very little Greek by now, a few bits and bobs and verbless sentences (ho anthropos zoon politikon and so forth...) In fact I don't think I could conjugate a simple verb. :( But I'll do my best to come up with a quotation or two.

Ándra moi énnepe, Moûsa, polýtropon...
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From:kakapo
Date:October 19th, 2002 02:45 pm (UTC)

nominus meus Inigo Montoya est..

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So, how does one say in Classical Attic Greek:
"my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die"?


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From:ijon
Date:October 19th, 2002 03:29 pm (UTC)

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You're right, a promise is a promise. But give me a couple of months, eh? I need to learn the past tense... :)
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From:ukelele
Date:October 19th, 2002 04:27 pm (UTC)

Re: nominus meus Inigo Montoya est..

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onoma moi Inigo Montoya. olesas patera moi. skeuazou thneskein.

Or, uh, something like that. I wouldn't say I'm good at Greek composition. Argh, I need to review everything.
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From:ijon
Date:October 23rd, 2002 09:05 am (UTC)

You rule!

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pulvis sub vestris pedibus ego.
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From:ukelele
Date:October 23rd, 2002 05:39 pm (UTC)

Re: You rule!

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*lol*!
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From:veryty
Date:October 22nd, 2002 10:27 am (UTC)

Oh, are we filing requests already? :->

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Here's mine: "birds chirping"

Oh, and is Greek xliterated into Latin letters,pronounced like -- what? I know a coupla Greek letters have to be represented by consonant clusters (e.g. psy, phi), but what about the vowel csounds? are there diphthongs?

Come to think of it, I can't recall having noted what the Greek (modern _or_ classic) language sounds like overall. I picked up a bunch of fragmentary glosses back when I was a medical sec'y, but rather haphazardly: i.e. whatever looked familiar was probably Latin-based; everything else probably came from Greek. How's that for a smattering? (and there's sooooo much Latin in my native English, and so very much out of proportion to Greek...)

I'm so glad to hear you're enjoying this! Do you and your classmates converse yet, or just declaim?
:-D
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From:ijon
Date:October 23rd, 2002 09:10 am (UTC)

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Greek pronunciation is both straightforward and ultimately unknowable. It is straightforward because glyphs have definite phonetic meaning and the alphabet is not hard, and unknowable because classicist simply don't know enough to be able to claim to be pronouncing Attic Greek (or any other dialect of ancient Greek, for that matter) accurately.

The one big snag is upsilon, which is pronounced roughly like the French 'u' (pursed lips), and NOT like a Hebrew shuruk nor as a short 'i', as in the Hebrew version of Pythagoras.

That said, I'll be happy to practice my (meager) spoken Greek on you. Call me some evening, if you like.
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