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Haaretz (and The Slot) - Impressions and Expressions of Ijon
July 5th, 2002
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Haaretz (and The Slot)
In several posts in this journal, I have quoted from and linked to my favorite Israeli newspaper, and the only one that's truly worth reading in Israel, in my opinion, Haaretz. The ever-vigilant ygurvitz sent me a Washington Post columnist's praise of Haaretz.

Incidentally, I admire a copy editor named Bill Walsh. He runs a great site for copy editors, called The Slot (what's a Slot, you ask? Bill explains), and has published a book of style and grammar punditry which is much to my taste. His writing is vivid, clear, and bold, and his attitude to language rubs me the right way.

Reading the aforementioned WP article, I encountered one of those despicable it's instead of its mistakes, and felt a pang of disappointment -- "ol' Bill screwed up", I sighed to myself. But then I recalled that his resume mentioned that he is copy chief of the Business Desk, and is thus not responsible for this mistake. Ah, the relief...

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From:ling_tso
Date:July 5th, 2002 05:05 am (UTC)

Proof that the adjective "wanky" may also be applied to women:

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I liked the link a lot. Perhaps with my pluterperfectly pedantic impulses, copy editing is the proper profession for me. (Except, I cheated with "impulses." And I began one sentence with "except" and the following sentence with "and." Oh dear.)

I've decided that the difference between annoyingly specific examples and unobtrusive specific examples is that the unobtrusive ones don't attempt to be funny or call attention to themselves. (A loose connection too. Maybe I'd better not edit my own work. As to parenthetical asides, they have a charming leveled quality, not to mention coding overtones. I refuse to object to them. My mind is too tangential; I simply cannot do without them.)

Good luck in Poland. May the moose flock to you.
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From:ijon
Date:July 7th, 2002 07:44 am (UTC)

Re: Proof that the adjective "wanky" may also be applied to women:

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Thank you!

Your English is very good. Should I think highly of Kyrgyzstani schools?
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From:ling_tso
Date:July 7th, 2002 12:45 pm (UTC)

Thank you also.

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Sadly, I speak only English (not counting what litle French I've been trying to improve.) I am not really from Kyrgyzstan. I'm from central New York, which is much less of a conversation starter. As a matter of fact, Ling Tso isn't my real name; it's just one of my tamer aliases. I've been Eliot George, Delores Delay, Norma DePlume, Polly Andrews (which isn't even true), and the palindromic Dr. Awkward.

You may still think highly of Kyrgyzstani schools, if you wish. Just don't base your opinion on anything I've said. Your English ain't half bad itself, to say the least. Did you pick it up as a small child?

P.S. Have you read Falkner's The Sound and the Fury? I just started it, and can't put it down.

P.P.S. If we ever by some bizarre coincidence run into each other, we must arrange an impromptu staging of No Exit, which you seem to have enjoyed. We can take two roles each if necessary. Dibs on the valet.
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From:hattie
Date:July 7th, 2002 01:09 am (UTC)
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I thought that the article was patronizing. The whole point of it was that even in (small? young? middle-eastern?)Israel, there is a newspaper that dares publish an opinion that criticizes its goverment, at a time of crisis.

Would the same writer write an article about a British/American (or any other "Western") newspaper criticizing its government's policy? I don't think so.

The writer seemed to be simply amazed that the Israeli media shows some kind of maturity, or that a mediterranian country is actually implementing the principal of Freedom of Speech.

It's not that I don't agree with him, regarding Haaretz, it's just that it felt as though we were being judged by the standards of common arab country and not by the standards of a western country.
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From:ijon
Date:July 7th, 2002 07:41 am (UTC)

What's bugging you?

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> I thought that the article was patronizing. The whole point of it was that even in (small? young? middle-eastern?)Israel, there is a newspaper that dares publish an opinion that criticizes its goverment, at a time of crisis.<

Was it? That's not "the whole point" I read. What makes you interpret the article that way?

>Would the same writer write an article about a British/American (or any other "Western") newspaper criticizing its government's policy? I don't think so.<

Yes, he would, had England been a constant major issue in world news. Diehl himself points out that US media and other world media have a hard time themselves in keeping up their reporting standards in the face of the massive public desire for bland patriotic rhetoric and the government's cynical use of this to brand valid criticism as "unpatriotic", "unamerican", etc.

>The writer seemed to be simply amazed that the Israeli media shows some kind of maturity, or that a mediterranian country is actually implementing the principal of Freedom of Speech.<

Again, I find your reading more dramatic than mine, and I have a hard time finding clues in the text to support your reading. What makes you decide that he is amazed? I just find him genuinely appreciative.

>It's not that I don't agree with him, regarding Haaretz, it's just that it felt as though we were being judged by the standards of common arab country and not by the standards of a western country.<

I disagree yet again. He specifically compares the situation to the post-WTC disaster press in the western world, and he does not seem to mention Arab press. What, exactly, offends you so much?

As for standards, Israel has a very immature democratic regime, certainly superior to most if not all Arabic regimes, but still quite inferior and sorely lacking in comparison with the leading western democracies.
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