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November 5th, 2002
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90 days
The Israeli government has collapsed, and a general election will be held in 90 days. I'm pleased -- anything is better than more of this.

Current Mood: relieved
Current Music: Frank Zappa -- Motherly Love

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From:cmm
Date:November 5th, 2002 03:54 am (UTC)
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what exactly is "this"?   what, in your opinion, is bound to materially change?
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From:ijon
Date:November 6th, 2002 08:38 am (UTC)
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"this" is Sharon's government, its heartless and cynical behavior and decisions, and their consequences.
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From:ukelele
Date:November 5th, 2002 04:51 am (UTC)
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I dunno. From what I see over here, an election would be likely to yield Sharon (again) or Netanyahu (again) as head of government, with a loss of seats for Labor and a gain in the right wing. I'm really unconvinced of the betterness of this option.
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From:ijon
Date:November 12th, 2002 02:01 am (UTC)
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It is a chance for the public to re-populate the Knesset (Israeli parliament), and therefore a chance to change the power structure. I have reason to believe that the religious right will weaken, and that one of the only two decidedly-secular parties in parliament (Shinui) will strengthen. I feel that the religious, bigoted nature of lawmaking and public behavior in Israel is the greatest illness of this society, and therefore should be our primary concern. If such a power change would really take place, things would stand a chance of improving in that area.

As for the prime minister, it does indeed seem that either Sharon or Netanyahu will take the reins, and that's a terrible prospect, but no worse than this current government is.
From:freedomrider
Date:November 5th, 2002 05:22 am (UTC)
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About 4 or 5 years ago, a group of friends gathered together in my place, which was in Chicago. We were all Israelies, having different political opinions, so we tried to avoid politics as much as possible, but we couldn't. Bibi was the prime minister then, and suddenly I realized an amazing fact: we all agreed that Shamir's performance as a prime minister was much better than Bibi's performance. We also agreed that the situation in Shamir's days was much better than the situation with Bibi as a prime minister. In a way, we all missed Shamir, who suddenly looked superior to Bibi by every aspect. And then I thought to myself - "is it possible that in 4 years, we will miss Bibi as well?". Sadly, this is the situation. If the choice is between Sharon and Bibi, then Bibi is better. Or better said - Bibi is not as bad as Sharon. And that's the only good thing I can say about him.

I feel like someone who just bought a lottery ticket. I can dream of winning the grand prize, fantasize on what I would do when I win it. But, the chances that the next government will be significantly better than the current governmentare very close to zero.
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From:veryty
Date:November 6th, 2002 08:28 am (UTC)
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How did you feel after the previous PM election, when Sharon ousted Barak?
From:freedomrider
Date:November 6th, 2002 12:02 pm (UTC)
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How did I feel? I felt awful, I felt I am desperate, I felt sad, because I knew what was going to happen.
From:ex_aurealis993
Date:November 5th, 2002 05:59 am (UTC)
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You tell me news, friend. Haven't watched TV news or radio, neither read a newspaper (because it hasn't appeared to my post locker at all during this week), so finally by your journal I see something's happening again in Israel. I'm relieved if you're relieved as well. *Keep me posted*
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From:ijon
Date:November 19th, 2002 06:38 pm (UTC)

Update

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Tonight the "lesser evil" was elected as the leader of the Israeli labor party -- it is expected to lose the upcoming election, i.e. this guy (Mitsna) is most probably the next opposition leader, not the next prime minister. But this is still a relief, as the other candidates are proven disasters.
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From:wildernesscat
Date:November 5th, 2002 11:10 am (UTC)
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Do you happen to know (from the top of your head) what are the web-sites of the Likud and the Avoda? I want more info about those two.
From:freedomrider
Date:November 5th, 2002 10:11 pm (UTC)
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There's an excellent index to politics related web sites - PoliticsNow.co.il.
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From:wildernesscat
Date:November 5th, 2002 10:42 pm (UTC)

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Great web-site! Thanks!
From:freedomrider
Date:November 5th, 2002 10:15 pm (UTC)

Politics Now web site

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Oh, but they hold the links to the various parties here.
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From:veryty
Date:November 6th, 2002 08:39 am (UTC)

"90 days" sounds like a jail sentence...

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...with a period after it -- but what a period!!

I found out about the target date when jj met me at the mall [=Qiryon] yesterday. He told me, and I emitted an involuntary scream, right there in Steimatzky's [book store]. It went unnoticed, I think; we're regulars there.

I'm the type, even though -- or especially because? -- I live out on the thinly-populated "peripheriya," who will want to do something, preferably as effective as possible without turning my other commitments inside-out (well, I'm being honest :-)
during the alloted time leading up to the looming election.

I didn't do anything to speak of before the last one. I wound up spending the morning-after writing POL/CHAT stuff on the LANTRA e-forum (for LANguage TRAnslation & Interpreting). It was my first foray there on that topic, and I was quickly joined by the other active Israeli LANTRAns whom I've since come to know, some of them quite well. It made me feel a measure of competence: I corrected some slurs, I got some on-list apologies from a few of those who slammed "the majority of Israelis" for "electing a war criminal to lead them..." (hint: I concentrated on the first point, not the latter :-/

This time, I figure, if I'm so smart and/or care so much, maybe I oughta do something _before_ the votes are in?
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