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January 3rd, 2004
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Veronique!
My favorite soundtrack album is Zbigniew Preisner's soundtrack for Krzysztof Kieslowski's "La Double Vie de Véronique". I've owned the CD some eight years now.

About three years ago, I lost it. The jewel case was there, but the CD was not. I thought it might turn up soon, and gave it time. It didn't. By and by I came to realize that I must have lost it outside the house or something, and that I am not likely to ever see that particular CD again, before I buy another copy. For three years, at least, I would occasionally encounter the forlorn jewel case, and sometimes I would even naively open it, hoping I might have somehow found it some time ago and forgot I did -- but of course, it wasn't there.

But like the sad story of losing Serena, this, too, has a happy end!

arnulf are conducting what has come to be known as The Operation (האופרציה) -- we're "ripping" all of my (rather sizable) CD collection into Ogg Vorbis files (a patent-free alternative to MP3) and storing them in faithful Pippin, the Flat server, for easy playback. This entails going over all my CDs, including the ones I haven't put in the stereo in years. And a few minutes ago, I found a kitschy love-song collection CD that my mother won at some raffle or something, and wouldn't you know it, there was my precious Véronique, languishing with gooey love melodies all these years...

Bliss!

Current Mood: excited
Current Music: La Double Vie de Véronique (Preisner) -- The Puppets

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From:mousa
Date:January 3rd, 2004 10:34 am (UTC)
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Good for you! :)

Now, I got this quention...
Am I allowed to burn my CDs so I would have a copy to listen to in my new "appartment", and the original to listen to at home, or do I legally have to purchase another copy?
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From:ijon
Date:January 3rd, 2004 11:24 am (UTC)
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Good question. Technically, every CD you ever bought expressly forbids you to do that, and adds that "by unsealing this CD you agree with the terms" etc. Practically, various courts of law have decreed repeatedly that it is within the rights of an owner of a recorded work to make a backup copy of that work for personal use.

So the short answer is "yes, you can do so quite ethically." The "book metaphor" is often applied here -- treat it like a paper book: it cannot be simultaneously enjoyed by two people. So if you make a copy and take it to your new home, it should not happen that someone at your parents' would listen to the same music as well.

Of course, this is a naive and problematic metaphor, so forget about it.
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From:mousa
Date:January 3rd, 2004 12:01 pm (UTC)
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Well, it's like making a backup copy, and that's legal.

Thanks for the answer.
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From:talash
Date:January 3rd, 2004 12:31 pm (UTC)
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imho it is even legal for one to download copyrighted songs, videos and software he legally owns from p2p networks and other sources, even if they have been put there illegally. for instance if i own a cd and it got damaged from scratches, copying the content of the cd off somewhere else is still legal.
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From:orenr
Date:January 3rd, 2004 01:39 pm (UTC)
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Technically, every CD you ever bought expressly forbids you to do that

Well, not *every* CD. I have right here in my hands a CD I purchased last month, Jim's Big Ego's They're Everywhere - a professionally printed and recorded studio album from a long time (and fairly well known) indy band, which I bought at full price. It states in the liner notes that it's licensed under the Creative Commons license, which allows various ways of sharing and copying the music.

Granted, it's the exception rather than the rule, but these things are out there. And I was very happy when A Band I Like decided to just go ahead and use this.
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From:mux2000
Date:January 3rd, 2004 10:45 pm (UTC)

This is like...

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a musical GPL! Way cool!
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From:passacaglio
Date:January 3rd, 2004 10:59 am (UTC)
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I lost my "Under The Pink" of Tori's about half a year ago. I hope it'll turn out in such a manner as well.
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From:lilacsinmarch
Date:January 3rd, 2004 12:31 pm (UTC)

He he

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Was it hiding inside the hidiously pink CD case that I was looking at with disgust and horror a few days ago?
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From:rozendorf
Date:January 3rd, 2004 12:49 pm (UTC)
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In our days, you can never know what you can find in cd cases.

I have seen this movie a few weeks ago.
It seems a movie that one should see many times before understanding it fully.
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From:mux2000
Date:January 3rd, 2004 10:46 pm (UTC)

???

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Which movie was it, and why did you need to see it repeatedly?
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From:rozendorf
Date:January 4th, 2004 11:03 am (UTC)

Re: ???

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The Double life of Veronique, by Kieslowski.

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From:jspoons
Date:January 3rd, 2004 03:04 pm (UTC)

Is the Ogg Vorbis quality sufficient?

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Is there any difference, quality-wise, between it and mp3?
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From:mux2000
Date:January 3rd, 2004 10:51 pm (UTC)

Re: Is the Ogg Vorbis quality sufficient?

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In Ogg the quality setting is different (for example, the bitrate (128/192/256 etc.) is only average, because it is not constant through the track), so the comparison is a bit tricky. Also in both formats the user (or ripper) can set the quality by himself, so the question is really that of the relation between the quality and the compression ratio. I have used Ogg Vorbis many a time, but though I didn't check the details, I can tell you that if I noticed a difference, it was in favour of Ogg.
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From:gaal
Date:January 3rd, 2004 11:33 pm (UTC)

Re: Is the Ogg Vorbis quality sufficient?

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Bottom line, Ogg is better.
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From:mux2000
Date:January 4th, 2004 01:00 am (UTC)

Soon I shall acquire a disk-on-key...

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...and then don't be surprised if ol' Pip has a jumpy red laser-sights dot flashing on its HD.
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From:cinamon
Date:January 4th, 2004 02:26 am (UTC)
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That is my favorite film.
No film ever touched me quite in the same way.
And the soundtrack... !

This brings up so many memories...
*goes ponder*
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From:roza
Date:January 5th, 2004 02:50 pm (UTC)

Weee :)))

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Good for you.

I love both the soundtrack and the movie.
*writing in the calendar* Have to see the movie again!!!
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From:ijon
Date:January 5th, 2004 03:23 pm (UTC)

Re: Weee :)))

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This would be a good time to mention that your videocassette copy of the movie is still at my place...
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From:roza
Date:January 6th, 2004 04:10 am (UTC)

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We have another one :)
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